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DJ IT'S TIME TO KEEP IT OLD SCHOOL THE NEW STYLE IS NOT THE WAY TO GO

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DJ IT'S TIME TO KEEP IT OLD SCHOOL THE NEW STYLE IS NOT THE WAY TO GO http://www.karmic-power-records.com/ Eddie Amador Lord Hear Our Prayer http://www.getinthemix.com FOR INFO ON 1-2-1 SKYPE LESSONS BY ELLASKINS FEEL FREE TO E MAIL ON [email protected] And keep in touch via my facebook page, link below. https://www.facebook.com/121SkypeDJLessons/ -------------------- Nothing in this video is given as legal evidence, it is provided for information purposes only
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Luca Cappellari (1 month ago)
😅😆🤣 You ar e my idol! I love your visions... The new growth! Nice video again.
Lust for Low-End (5 months ago)
"Perfection isn't good enough!" Love it Jonathan! Great video.
Mpc.e (5 months ago)
then SHURE goes out of business
TheDORIANGRAE (7 months ago)
I've been around a while. Seen a lot of stuff. I mean look at The Avalanches. Back in the day i watched them straight blend on vinyl for hours. And they took chances, mixed some of the most obscure stuff around and it was beautiful. A crowd of people just mesmerized and they're going from trance to hip hop and old cartoon clips. My favorite mix by them is an old house session where they just went mostly obscure and one of the last songs was a Nina Simone track and there's nothing more beautiful about DJing than when you hear someone making the adjustments on vinyl, like you said, they know what they're doing when they can keep a long live essentially remix together. I don't think it's digital that's the cause of it. I just think like anything else the music itself is so disposable. It's literally free. You can spend a few hours downloading, setting cue points and loading a flash drive. It's not the equipment. It's the passion to devour music, learn it, feel it that's missing. We had to work our asses off to find music back then. If there's no passion going into it, it's never coming out. When I was young I wish I had 1200s. I saved up, first thing I got was a mixer from my neighbor who also loved music. I had two cassette decks I could manipulate by rigging the potentiometer inside to turn the speed adjustment into a pitch control. That's how much I wanted to mix. I think for some people it's just a job. And they don't appreciate the art of it.9th Wonder made a similar point when it involves sampling. A lot of these people today just sample music and don't care about where it comes from. That's why these things have no soul to them. No one can tell me the spotless seamless mixes coming out today are that great if you don't feel anything from them. I will add, if a person can stand there unassisted and perform a near perfect mix without the help of the sync button then that is amazing. There is art to perfection, but it can't be easily attainable. Thanks for the vid. I've watched you for ages, first comment.
MarxSound Audio Services (10 months ago)
Topic is old and beat to death! -practice, play music for humans, make $$$, repeat! Doesnt matter what you use...there's enough gigs and $$$ out there for every type of DJ!
Maria Lopes (10 months ago)
Be creative and different and I totally agree !!
djTLMtv (11 months ago)
Maybe I misunderstood, but are you saying people should try to mess up on purpose in order to make the mix sound more organic and have more "soul"?? I totally agree that these clinically clean computer-generated sync'd mixes lack soul (and creativity), but I think a better way to put it would be to just tell people that little mistakes are not a bad thing. That little mistakes that just happen during a mix are fine and make it sound like a real organic mix. I know where you're coming from and I remember my daily practice sessions recording mixes on tapes and listening back afterward to hear what I did right and wrong. We had to be creative to make it work. I feel blessed to come from that era because it allows me to be able to do more on modern day equipment that someone who only played on a controller.  But telling people they need to go "back to the old school" will not connect with most of the new generation. They don't want to hear us older DJs telling them that it used to be better. And you're not going to convince them that a club owner or promoter will be more likely to book them if they drop a mix with mistakes ;)
Keppler Keppler (1 month ago)
Believe it or not I know a promoter who shall remain nameless who refused to let me spin ( yet still wanted me to mc ) at his events. The reason : my mixing was too clean....so he said - I took this as a compliment. He wanted that 'rough sound' whatever that meant. He used to book local djs, some of which I was personally coaching at the time which upped the irony scale even further. That was 20 years ago and we lost contact but whenever I see videos like this I always laugh with good memories and wonder what he would make of the scene of today :D Let's have it right, all the purists would have jumped all over todays technology if they had it back then. I know I would have :) Peace
andre bryant (11 months ago)
Nobody gives a shit about this topic but old ass djs mad at these young cats... I started to dj from being in karaoke people noticed my gift of playing the right song at the right time and I stay booked for dj gigs no controller ...head sets nothing just virtual dj and my Yamaha 10xu mixer and mic and speakers that I use for karaoke as well I own 15s ...12s...18s and I rock fucking parties and I'm 50yrs old been doing it 5 years even do high school kids and they love me...search Andre bryant icon mobile music on facebook all you naysayers!
Lou Primo (11 months ago)
Great quote and the end Jonathan. Thanks for opening up my mind.
Pskinny Psumo! (11 months ago)
Thank you homie.. I been saying these things for a while.
Loncee Thompson (1 year ago)
You are Sooooo Amazing ‼️‼️‼️ born and raised in L.a. I’ve been a hip hop dancer / choreographer since 88’. I remember when hip hop first started as a little boy , saw it mature as a 80’s teenager and inspire the house and techno culture where I really Got into. Dance is about Soul and I love how you understand what Soul is‼️ I’m new at djing and just want to thank you for your videos 🙏🏽 and crazy hats🤣😜😜 KEEP UP THE FANTASTIC WORK MIII BROTHA 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
ellaskins (1 year ago)
thank you
Musicator Productions (1 year ago)
Very inspiring video thanks for sharing🍻
good dog (1 year ago)
I like mixing without using effects.
Melissa Bridgeford (1 year ago)
great video. Grow on , grow organic, grow free...... but in key,phrase and beat goddammit!
Chris Argueta (1 year ago)
0:18 That is incorrect information. I own black 1200s, black from Panasonic. The 1210s have a switch on the bottom to allow them use European 220 voltages, that's the only difference between the 1200s or 1210s. I've seen silver 1210s.
Keppler Keppler (1 month ago)
Technics made the 1200mk2 in black as well as silver I remember them well as well as the 1200mk2pk which were also black. There are small differences between the 1200 and the 1210 but you'd have to do some open deck surgery to have a proper look but there are very small differences internally. The voltage switch I've found on many 1200s not just 1210s. I know my 1200mk2 ( silver ) has a voltage switch under the platter like the 1210. Peace
Chris Argueta (11 months ago)
djTLMtv I own a pair of black SL-1200 MK2
Chris Argueta (11 months ago)
djTLMtv yes, SL-1200 MK2, In black. SL-1210 MK2 In silver.
djTLMtv (11 months ago)
We're talking 1200mk2 right? If I remember correctly (read this somewhere a long time ago), they released a black version of the SL1200mk2 later. But I've never seen it. When it was first released the mk2 was silver and the 1210 was black. In my 25+ years as a DJ every SL1200mk2 I've seen was silver and if they had black SL's they were 1210's.  Now of course, there are plenty of black SL1200's, but those aren't mk2's. mk3, 4, 5, m5g's, etc.
Factor Deme Gre Xw (1 year ago)
Corect
Lisa Bodine (1 year ago)
It always helps me to keep my hands on some vinyl to stay balanced http://www.lboogiedj.com/single-post/2017/11/01/StayCalmSpinVinyl
peu sahasirker (1 year ago)
should I buy mackie thump 15 inch speakers for my mobile gig coz that suits my pocket or else do you have any other options , please guide me what should I do
D.J. KEYS (1 year ago)
Don't Evan use bpm
D.J. KEYS (1 year ago)
I have no screens I still use a denon hd2500 old kit right no laptop. And will hand a lot of djs there as with it
dizzyntara (1 year ago)
I was djing in the early 90s till about 2010. For the last 7 years I have just spun in my house for fun. In the last year I have started buying some new gear still use my 1210s but I got a cdj2000 nxs2 as well as a djm2000 nexus. I started watching some videos about them and saw a lot of differences from before to now, like djs look cool twisting effects buttons and knobs before it was more of being able to fly through records really quick or scratch with house tracks. I totally get the whole soul of the mix. We would try so hard to get the perfect mix. What I found back then though a lot of people wouldn’t even notice most of the mistakes. Great video
David Noels (1 year ago)
I'm an "Old School" hobby dj working in twice a month in a popular bar/club as DJ4T+ . Fully agree with your vision in this video and previous ones, but ... I also don't agree. The technical evolution in dj gear is quite similar as in photography to that point that everybody thinks now that they are a splendid photographer/dj because of the automatic functions and other buttons. I'm a professional photographer and Art Academy teacher and it's not because you have the best kit in your hands means that you're a good photographer. Technically everybody can learn how to photograph and also how to dj and make perfect mixes. But if you don't know how to create an image, If you don't know how to create the perfect groovy atmosphere your audience needs when your playing If you don't have the feeling to create either a picture or a music set on the fly, then it doesn't matter if you're using the newest dj gear or vinyl or whatever. Technical evolution is very good as long as you don't forget what you need to know and to do to create the perfect atmospher for your audience. Technical evolution helps to create new levels in your music as well as in photography. In dj'ing you need to be interested in music now and then, you need to feel your audience and respond to the atmosphere with your music knowledge and library. Then it doesn't matter what equipment you're using. Therefore I disagree that going back to vinyl (or film in photography) is "better" because you had to "work" harder. BS... technical evolution helps you to create on another level and that's ok as long as you're aware what you're doing and need to do. Keep up the great video's !
mike Jay (1 year ago)
Truth! I miss hearing a world class dj having a mix slip a little… what maxes a good dj is how you handle a mix that isn't going quite right
George McCauley (1 year ago)
Absolutely fantastic advice Jonathan. These kinds of videos shouldn't be given away for free, fair play to you for doing just that. Keep them coming
exphila (1 year ago)
I really like your history videos. Always learning something new. Hope you do more if these videos in the future.
Dawso (1 year ago)
Literally last week I decided to stop using my DDJ-SX and buy a pair of CDJ900s and a DJM800 for this exact same reason! Hearing this makes me glad someone of your calibre thinks the same
TitanSound (1 year ago)
Very well put. I have nothing against the digital revolution, I use traktor scratch as well as real vinyl, but there is something so satisfying in pulling off an all vinyl mix.
Martin Herity (1 year ago)
This reminds me of something that happened in my early DJ days. I made a 45 min cassette mix that I was very proud of. Took me several attempts (which could be hugely frustrating, especially when you're near the end of the mix and you make a mistake!) My friend asked to borrow it to listen to, I reluctantly said yes, but be careful with it. When I got it back, I eagerly stuck it on to listen to again and wallow in pride – he only bloody recorded over it! I still think it was on purpose as I'd broken the tabs on top so it couldn't be recorded over, he had covered the holes with tape!!! Grrrrrr!
John Parker (1 year ago)
News to all dj's living in the countryside. Don't eat the little mushrooms growing around September October time, they're organic 😜
Ben Constable (1 year ago)
Bet you felt like shakespeare after that final speech ahahaha
C Sanchez (1 year ago)
Barvo Jonathan, great message. I agree 100%. A lot of the new music and mixes at clubs today are boring. It’s all Tech without swing, soul and grooves. Many song are created and engineered on a laptop with minimal human interaction. Recently I went back to mixing Disco, Salsoul, Motown early dance and Latin. The music just feels alive.
Cobain Windsurfer (1 year ago)
I agree to what you preach here man, we need to somewhat get back to the roots/ the fun genuine art of DJ:ing which involves practicing, to get a feel for the music and learn how to use that to set our own personal fingerprint on the mix. It has to be genuine - hate to see dj:s with just a single laptop on a table, makes me puke.
Gerri (1 year ago)
So ive got 4 technics my self. Dont think digital can make me as happy those turntables do
briansredd (1 year ago)
Hey J. Here's a video response! Remember those? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqxtwudpXeY&feature=youtu.be
ellaskins (1 year ago)
Nice one Briansredd
Mykel Mixks (1 year ago)
@ellaskins sell me your old school jungle collection
DJ Dynablend (1 year ago)
I love these old school tutorials! Young DJs will never know the struggles! I was born in 82 and I just wish I got into DJing earlier! But thats life! Respect to Vinyl DJs and reel to reel editors all over!
D.J.Johnny Tapia (1 year ago)
I don't know about mixing a train wreck on purpose. With that being said, I can see doing other things in your mix like throwing in different genres, different tempos..different eras and music styles.. doing a "power off" on one deck slam in something new. Just do something original and keep people guessing..
Monty Blaze (1 year ago)
R.I.P.
Monty Blaze (1 year ago)
BTW..... that track bit different from you.....
Shane Roc (1 year ago)
So..... mess up on purpose? Not happening
Shane Roc (1 year ago)
Wasn’t called “clever”... it was called Skills.
tony henwood (1 year ago)
if im doing club mixes it will be seamless or can be but I do like to keep it so it sounds real and have mistakes so its got the human element
tony henwood (1 year ago)
I used to do mixes on cassette and yes there was mistakes but you could get away with it I tried to keep mixes to 30 minutes a side and at one stage I had no pitch control at the time we had to use what we could find
unclear steve (1 year ago)
Now you have the technology doing the work do the dj is just stood there with his thumb up his arse. So looking for something to do he'll start faffing about with the filters and ruin the track.
Divadisco (1 year ago)
I agree 100%, mixing too easily is boring, I like touching the record and take my time setting the pitch control all right.
Lisa Bodine (1 year ago)
Great points but today's music is fostering the lack of creativity. Most of it is soulless which leads to robotic soulless mixes
Simon Price (9 months ago)
Lisa Bodine bang on sweetheart... the soul, groove THE MAGIC is slowly being lost....
Lisa Bodine (1 year ago)
Yes! Technology should be used to enhance but not replace the authenticity and groove of a DJ set
D.J. KEYS (1 year ago)
Lisa Bodine I must agree
John Parker (1 year ago)
That's not down to technology really that's just because the wrong people are djing. Too much emphasis these days is put on looking the part rather than being able to build a groove
Dj BigheadMugg (1 year ago)
completely disagree! the energy and builds with loops and stutters is on another level. Im an oldschool hip hop head and i d.j What the new equipment allows you to do today far exceeds anything in the past. creating energy and movement in an oldschool funk set makes it feel new again!!!
Fraser Stewart (1 year ago)
Must admit, I watched this on my flat screen. Got my first DJ turntable the other day. Its belt drive (yeah I know! It was cheap!) but i'm having a lot of fun with it and will be buying a matching turntable with a mixer very soon. It's really just for messing around with until mixing with vinyl feels more natural, then (if i'm good enough) i'll splash out on some proper DD turntables, although the 1200's may be just a bit out of my range, but we'll see! Anyway, another great video and totally agree.
Gregg Parker (1 year ago)
Amen! Great video J! Agree with you 100% here, I started on turntables, I currently use CD's & usb's & will never go to controllers, perfect seamless mixing doesn't interest me because it has no personality! Great video! Met you Sunday at BPM at the CD Pool Stand when u were setting up holder to enable facebook streaming 👍
Stefano Canali (1 year ago)
wondeful video soul and energy of mix bravo john
John Carter (1 year ago)
Many a time my mixers go off beat and I manually correct it without sync, I agree it's good to sometimes not worry about being too correct.
John Carter (1 year ago)
Everyone seems to be saying vinyl but you can mix digital manual way same as in the video no vinyl decks but he doing it manual like you would vinyl.
Dj BigheadMugg (1 year ago)
hahaha...everyone is like" i sold my kids and went out and got me some 1200"s" meanwhile he has 2 digital decks in front of him!!! SMH People are retarded!!!
jermaine robinson (1 year ago)
This guy makes me laugh but he makes sense with his madness🤔.👍🏾🎶🎶👊🏾
Matthew See (1 year ago)
Good video & food for thought. I've recently tried to get more into the digital aspect, bought my first & second controller this month 10/2017. I've spent more time trying to figure out software than I have buying & playing music.....which is why I got into DJing 15 years ago. I'm not sure what to make of this digital age really, I'm just trying to be more relevant in the scene
anthony pentland (1 year ago)
There's no real feel than VINYL. THE OLD WAYS IS THE BEST WAYS.!!! Nuff said.☝
lovingdjing (1 year ago)
yes m8 vinyl all day long
Caolan Maher (11 months ago)
lovingdjing how do you deal with bringing your gear around ? I mean your records ?
Love it. My mixes still tend to be around the 45 min mark even though I record them in serato now. Think I just got use to doing the cassette mixes on c90's hahaha. I use digital vinyl and not a controller and the sync is permanently off. I even cover the beat counters on my reloop decks so I'm not tempted to get lazy.
Layo (1 year ago)
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and knowledge. This was beyond well said and much needed. Jonathan, thank you for all you've done and taught us, not only as DJ's, but as growing people as well. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Miguel Malho (1 year ago)
You are fully correct!... Cheers
gareth foster (1 year ago)
It sounds better i think wen say the beeats do a sort of echo but not a train crash..
Franz Kellermann (1 year ago)
Wise! Thanks for sharing this knowledge. Totally agree with your words.
Yus 808 (1 year ago)
I've totally ditched digital, bought myself a pair of 1210s and dug out my old analogue mixer, I'm having so much more fun than with digital.
Simon Price (9 months ago)
Yus 808 Amen brother...
TECHNO (1 year ago)
People just lost soul!
AceTechHD (1 year ago)
I'm no DJ but I always enjoy your videos. Just got a Technics SL-1200 (MK2) and I'm enjoying the hell out of it. One of the best purchases I've ever made.
Miguel Silva (1 year ago)
I know what you mean!!! About time someone do a video about it! I used to use sync, know i rarely look at bmp. just hand on the pitch to correct and beat match. I must thank you ´cos most of what I know (djing) I have learn from your yt videos, so thanks for all mate! Now I put some "soul" to all my sets. Cheers from Miguel, Germany https://www.mixcloud.com/djmsilva2081/dj-m-silva-reload-the-classics-continuous-mix/
Second Story (1 year ago)
Well Said!  Agree 100%.

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