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Support the show and become a Patron! Be a part of our community, receive awesome rewards, and more! http://www.patreon.com/commandzone ---------- Show Notes: Many cards and effects are contentious in EDH. Armageddon, Stasis, Iona, Scrambleverse…the list is long and varies depending on your playgroup. On this episode we’re discussing a recent article by Commander Rules Committee member Sheldon Menery and asking the question: Are there cards you shouldn’t play? ---------- The Command Zone podcast is brought to you by Card Kingdom! Make sure to use our affiliate link the next time you purchase Magic cards or products: http://www.cardkingdom.com/commandzone Huge thanks to UltraPro (http://www.ultrapro.com - @UltraProIntl) for sponsoring this episode and providing awesome prizes for our giveaways! Find UltraPro on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/UltraProInternational/ Purchase a Game Knights t-shirt (available for a limited time): http://bit.ly/GKShirt ---------- Sheldon’s Article: http://www.starcitygames.com/articles/37865_Commander-Cards-You-Shouldnt-Play.html Elder Dragon Statesman (Sheldon’s Podcast): https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/elder-dragon-statesmen Follow Sheldon on Twitter: @SheldonMenery ---------- What we talked about on THE END STEP: PAI GOW MAGIC! ---------- Follow us on Twitter! @CommandCast @JoshLeeKwai @jfwong @jumbocommander Email us: [email protected] ---------- Enjoying DJ's as a guest host on our show? Be sure to check out his YouTube channel: youtube.com/jumbocommander ---------- Huge thanks to Geoffrey Palmer for providing some of his amazing Living Cards animations for our videos. Follow him here: https://twitter.com/livingcardsmtg https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIuqWt79_d0hUK-dRhzFtAQ Check out our sister podcast - The Masters of Modern: http://collected.company/category/the-masters-of-modern/ Commander/EDH Official Rules, Banlist, Forums, and more: http://mtgcommander.net/rules.php
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The Command Zone (5 days ago)
Yo! Where all my alternate Pai Gow Magic name ideas at? Reply here so I can find em easily. -JLK
T (3 hours ago)
You could call the format "Decks of Three"? Which is kinda a play on the "best of three" format of playing games, despite this being out of four decks. But yeah.
Alejandro Alvarado (8 hours ago)
Everybody here is making this WotC marketing sounding names like Blitz magic or Pack wars. here we just call that "Booster Macho"
Jose Cisneros (14 hours ago)
Quick shot
S e a n O'Doherty (22 hours ago)
3.H.W. Stands for 3 Hit Wonder. Kind of like the acronym for E.D.H. (Elder Dragon Highlander)
TokuMaster (22 hours ago)
Here you go: Four 3 to Win Four decks of 3 cards to (homophone) Win (other homophone) the match-ups. Simple and catchy, hope you like it!
No Reality Acid? hmm... that seems like a mean card. But why seedborn muse? Because it's the replacement for "Prophet of Kruphix"?
Alex Quigley (1 hour ago)
I have very few triggers, but one thing I can't handle in MTG is: players taking each other's turns. All instances of taking control of other players should not be part of the game Imo.
Brynx (2 hours ago)
Armageddon and not Obliterate?
Lefty Holmes (4 hours ago)
Just call it what it is "Pack Magic"
rush1231 (4 hours ago)
"If there was a card that cost 8 mana and said ""I win the game"", would you play it?" "No, not at all." "I wouldn't either" ................................. "Biorhythm should be unbanned" 🤔
Ace (5 hours ago)
Don’t play Decree of Annihilation, just don’t.
Jack McFetridge (6 hours ago)
What do people generally think of sire of insanity? I play it in my kallia deck and my friend hates every time I play it, but I mostly play it to slow him down since if I have a slow start his tishana deck goes off with it's card draw
Tzoe-Wan Chiam (6 hours ago)
I personally use Mind Slaver with Lethal Vapors. As a one off. We have the rule you are only allowed to scoop in your upkeep. It's hella funny if someone did not see the fact that once you Mind Slaver someone, you can stack the Lethal Vapors ability a trillion times!!! Effectively letting them skip all their turns^^
Dennis Hopper (8 hours ago)
I don't like playing with anything really infinite or staxy in normal games and, if you're not trying to be competitive, they just feel out of place and not very fun. If you're winning with a Dramatic Reversal combo in, for example, a pirate deck, you kind of just look/feel like a clown imo. I think another good example would be elves, too many things that make the deck viable go infinite with each other in what would otherwise be a pretty flimsy archetype. It feels cheesy. For some context, I've built the Derevi stax deck, the Elf/Staff of Domination deck, and the Azami/Mind Over Matter deck and none of them where good enough to consistently challenge top tier decks and none of them where fun enough (for anyone at the table) even in higher tier casual play. Just my opinion and none of these things should be banned.
TTopaz (8 hours ago)
Call the new game something to do with having three cards? Triple Threat, 3 Shooter, 3 in the booster(like 1 in the chamber) etc.
Aiden Wood (9 hours ago)
A card that wasn't mentioned that is also "a jerk card for jerks" or a caos card unless done very well is world fire because it does the whole resetting the game at an awkward point
Andrew Laverghetta (10 hours ago)
Card I hate...Rain of Hailfire. I understand which situations, but I don’t like when it’s cast in a long game and just does so much with a ton of mana behind it. I’m pretty sure that’s a card I’ll rarely consider putting in a deck.
Aidan Durrant (10 hours ago)
My group's thing is that combos are fine, but as long as you don't always win that way. That influenced the way I build my decks so that I can combo if I draw the pieces, but I don't need to if I don't have to or want to.
Silvermankitty (11 hours ago)
so I feel that the main thing he wants to avoid is people turning the game into solitaire. Where it's just uninteractive, and 3 people are sitting around waiting for that player. As he said, this is a social game, and when the game grinds down to just 1 person doing everything it really kills the "fun social aspect" I have a few decks that do it, but they really aren't the decks I have fun piloting.
Will O'Malley (11 hours ago)
Kaldra, sorin markov, sword cycle
NightOfCrystals (12 hours ago)
My least favorite card in Commander has to be Expropriate. Whenever it resolves, the player who cast it has such a huge advantage, and it's never fun to choose between your best permanent and then getting another turn. So many decks that run it cheat it out too (old Jhoira.)
Cory Wood (13 hours ago)
I have no problem with people figuring out and putting together crazy combos. I have a lot of respect for people that craft super powerful decks on their own. But the second I learn they got the idea from the internet then just went and bought the cards, I never wanna play the deck again.
djskype020202 (13 hours ago)
I like Hall of gemstone LOL
August Nord (14 hours ago)
Interesting discussion! :) I like it heated!
Jose Cisneros (14 hours ago)
Quick shot should be the name
Ronnie Wells (14 hours ago)
I don't necessarily dislike broken cards because there's a glut of them in EDH but I don't like polarizing cards. If everyone gets turn 1 Mana Crypt and I don't I am almost certainly out of the game. I don't like when things like that happen.
Eric Lundy (15 hours ago)
Luminarch Ascention?
billyum braskey (15 hours ago)
Josh need to get back in the gym. Swollness fading.
SomePoorSap (15 hours ago)
Veldalken Orrery.
Ronnie Wells (16 hours ago)
I agree with Armageddon, Thieves Auction, Stasis, Winter Orb, and Static Orb. I personally don't enjoy cards that completely stop others from playing the game. Now before you jump on me I realize this can be said about any number of things from infinite combos to counterspells. These cards legitimatelly deny you of all or almost all resources to take any action and in the case of Thieves Auction just turns the game into a clusterfuck mess. I personally think Sol Ring and Mana Crypt are also unhealthy but I will never convince enough people of that.
Matthew Jones (17 hours ago)
Iona... she is a fun way to turn off Cyclonic rift. There is a lot of blue in my group lol Man I love that card.
Robert Romero (17 hours ago)
Its probably different at other places and other playgroups, but in mine we base our play on the power level of our decks and we don't have cards that we say we shouldn't play. We all have multiple decks and switch it up depending on who decides on what deck. Our meta is very diverse I'd say, we have everything from muldrotha stax, quick combos, and a bunch of different storm variants to bird tribal, xantcha politics and janky decks. But our group has atleast 8 consistent players but on average 20 more people around.
evileyeball (17 hours ago)
Maybe call it Game of Threes
evileyeball (17 hours ago)
I avoided putting infinite combos in my melek deck because I have Circu as an infnite combo deck so since I am building 8 decks currently (and I have 6/8 finished) I elected not to play infinite in the deck (excluding any I stumbled into like Beacon of Tomorrows and Eye of the storm, or Beacon of Tomorrows and Charmbreaker Devils when you have an empty graveyard)
Kigiru Drewko (20 hours ago)
Whatever is not banned is playable and if someone points out to me that i should not play cards that i like then... no?
Tyler Stadnyk (23 hours ago)
should have called this list "Cards you shouldnt play because i dislike losing to them"
Mike Asterios (1 day ago)
Call it Quartet Blitz, Quartet for 4 decks, Blitz for super fast gameplay
Kaleb Burbine (1 day ago)
Similar to the constant mists thing: It only took one game of Zur's Weirding in my Muldrotha deck before I had to drop it for anyone to be willing to play with me anymore.
Joshua Perry (1 day ago)
So he basically doesn't like it when people can't play their deck, or when you have to choose a specific person to not play their deck. So that means he doesn't like douchebag counter-decks...basically.
Sean Hrecho (1 day ago)
Commander is not a competitively balanced format compared to many other formats. It's a "fun" format. That being said, if you ban stax pieces and Iona and stupidly powerful cards like Mana Drain, you're taking away cards people enjoy playing. What cards are and are not allowed to play should be decided by your playgroup if you are playing outside of a shop.
tonkajammin (1 day ago)
>Plays Magic the gathering >A fundamentally unfair game > Complains about some off the most powerful cards being unfair >Counterspell its a thing
Daemon Quadros (1 day ago)
You guys said it yourself for sorin, he's not that good in general. Still feels bad, so what's the point of playing him? Synergy??? Nah.
husk1184 (1 day ago)
Dude on the right is a "sky is falling" crybaby. He has zero rational reasons for his bias and provided no arguement other than "what if" for his point of view. His bias is rooted in jelousy and envy. Nothing they can do outside of remove themselves from the format they created will appease him.
Elijah Huyghe (1 day ago)
Call it six shooter because of how many cards you play and it’s quick
Ryan Sikder (1 day ago)
The problem with all the combo enabler cards you spoke about in the first part isn't just that it enables a combo. It's that it enables a combo that takes a long time, and then might not be able to actually end the game.
Joseph Lord (1 day ago)
my response to vorinclex the great aurora
George King (1 day ago)
Thieves auction is amazing in Zedruu.
Michael Knives (1 day ago)
Wotc can literally create their own list
Kohga Mole (1 day ago)
Honestly, Vorinclex seems fine to me, I do not see how it is worse than any of the other prison archetype cards, and half of those are WAY worse.
AnselAlly (1 day ago)
I understand that GameKnights are sorta for new players. I just hope JLK did an extra turns with the pro players.
Fancycoat (1 day ago)
Sometimes it's not individual cards that are the problem. Using my playgroup as an example, we have approximately four to five people in our playgroup who play. My best friend, who started playing magic around the same time as me (since 2007) has been with me from the very start of EDH and became very involved and immersed in it. As a disclosure I known him for a second grade and I would take a bullet for him he is my brother from another mother. However playing EDH with him over the years has become very dull and monotonous with me. Over the course of last 11 years I have made countless Commander decks at least one of every color and one of every combination of colors. Overtime I dismantle these decks improved upon them Andre work them, as of now I believe I have approximately 7 Commander decks. My best friend who again who's been playing with me since I started has only made 3 decks and is 11 year career. For me personally it is absolutely infuriating to go into a playgroup and not see a change of variety from time to time I've been playing against Lavav ever since Gatecrash came out. I tried to convince him over too many years to make new decks I even offered my massive giant resource of cards so that he wouldn't have to spend money on them but still no luck. To me it feels like playing against the Harlem Globetrotters you know exactly what moves are going to play how's it going to play it exactly how long it's going to take them to play and how are they going to do it to me that's not fun at all. I believe that a good healthy game not only needs a good rotation of cards but a good rotation of decks as well.
jamespooh2 (1 day ago)
I have seen several cEDH people shame casuals. I think that we should just play in the groups we want to play in and stop shaming each other
I have a friend that use paradox engine in his commander deck it's sucks because he going for an infinite combo and that dose end the game when he dose :(
Eamon Bell (1 day ago)
I mean, my playgroup doesn't acknowledge the ban list. The only cards we "ban" are those that don't make the game fun. For example, my friend is making an eldrazi tribal deck, including Aeons Torn. We're letting him because it hasn't been a huge problem yet. If it becomes so, then we might ban it. Plus, cards don't have to be played. If you have an Armageddon in hand that would ruin someone's day, you don't have to play it.
Walton Hall (1 day ago)
I concede to thieve’s auction
sokudo (1 day ago)
well i normally don't comment; I been playing magic for most of it life. I am sorry the comment that competitive players don't degrade casuals is BULL SHIT. I have watched so many quote quote competitive net decker chase people out of locals or just quit playing magic cause the way they get treated. so you our crazy to think that competitive doesnt bash the casuals; it is why alot of people don't go to lgs cause competitive people make playing the game not fun.
Ruud Kurvers (1 day ago)
I was indeed enjoying the birds at the background the entire video 😅 Nice content though, keep it going. Also more often “Extra turns”!
Todd Mckinley (1 day ago)
It is CRAZY how relevant this is to my play groups current position. Please Please fellow viewers, don't be that guy that sucks all the fun out of the game. Aim for good honest game play where everyone gets a chance to do something before the game is over. Being forced out of the game and essentially watching one person combo off for 30 minutes is a demoralizing and extremely frustrating experience. Even worse is being the guy that drags out a game for 4 hours with no serious way to win. And for GOD SAKE, PLEASE don't be that guy that shows the table a card and expects them to just give up. In my opinion there is NOTHING worse than being forced to quit a game just so you have time to play the next one. That is not a real win, that is just being an asshole.
Tyler the King (1 day ago)
http://www.starcitygames.com/article/34491_Exclusive-Updated-Commander-Philosophy-Document.html For DJ questioning why cards get banned. Personally I trust the RC because the banlist is consistent with their stated philosophy.
Stefan Ellrodt (1 day ago)
I had a Vorinclex, but I had no fun playing it. And the most anoying card in my playgroup is Iona (and cyclonic rift). But Iona is much more anoying. Worst game was my elf-deck vs. a kaalia deck and Iona was slammed on turn 2 (due to solring+signet start and lightning greaves turn 2)...no fun
Mason Foster (1 day ago)
what happend with jimmy? is he gone and y?
Gandalf der Graue (1 day ago)
I guess Sheldons message is pretty simple. Magicplayers like to play magic. Let players play magic and cast spells and make own decisions. Take control of turns, destroy all lands or combo off for 20minutes with paradox engine denys your opponents from playing. Playing MtG is fun, lets just have fun.
Jonathan Butt (1 day ago)
Throwing paper? Let's get #CRUMPLEIN2BALL trending right now.
David Loria (1 day ago)
Anything with annihilator
Red Wizard (1 day ago)
Do we access to DJ’s Karn decklist? I’d like to compare it to mine
Eric Hobbie (1 day ago)
The real reason mindslaver/emrakul (promised end) is no fun in commander is the fact that the person controlling you can make the decision to NOT put your commander back in the command-zone. That's the most non-fun thing u can do in commander. "Hey let's play a format where everyone can build a deck around a single creature. Cool, now put yours away and don't get access to it anymore" Seriously, never play against someone who plays Emrakul as their commander. They're not playing for the fun, but to be a f***ing a**hole ...
n00exec (1 day ago)
To be honest i'm Playing Brago right now, and Strionic it's a must... but it's really a thing when u have to get 4 or 6 cards to do something?
Kyle Carson (1 day ago)
Hi Josh - I wanted to post in here an apologize. I used to listen to the show regularly but eventually gave it up because I found you to be more of a Spike type player than I am/was and that you were influencing the format more in that direction. I hadn't listened to show the in around a year and came back because of the topic. I see that I was wrong and I'm sorry. I appreciate your stance on the format based on this episode. Keep up doing the good and high quality work. What you actually asked: I stopped playing Capsize and Cyclonic Rift because I realized how it made people feel in my play group. It's also started a bit of a power down in our games to ensure that all games are fun for everyone. We still have our high powered games/decks but just keep a variety.
Mark Fidell (1 day ago)
You own almost every magic card? That I want to see. How about a video showing us your collection and how you file it?
Idee vee (1 day ago)
any place to buy D&D miniatures?
Mike Asterios (1 day ago)
Don't you put the Paradox engine on it. God damn it, whatever, I can't have Tolarian academy, at least let me play that card.. Like, I don't even tutor for it in most games. If I know I can win pretty fast, I will go and get it, but if I can't, I am not going to sit and torture people playing tap games with myself.. I will go and get Mishra's self replicator, or Helm of the Host and have fun
Michelle Leitschuh (1 day ago)
Omniscience is the one card I really don’t like. I hate everything that it does. Almost every time it hits the field, whoever plays it wins. I only have one copy of it (in my Jhoira Weatherlight combo deck) and every time it resolves, the game ends. Same thing with anyone else who plays it. Since it is in blue, card draw and counterspells are already there. Not to mention the insane possibilities with storm.
Tyrell Hughes (1 day ago)
Also... Just random thoughts on the banned list... Tolarian Academy is banned, but the far more breakable Gaea's Cradle isn't? I just don't get it.
Hardly Entertaining (1 day ago)
This is all just my opinion, but I've played against many different types of deck each with their own unique players, and I have lost games because I refuse to play weaker decks. I strongly believe that it is not YOUR responsibility to ensure that everyone else has fun. I strictly play commander and when I was first starting out, i was regarded as a pity player at my LGS. I had the weakest deck, ate a lot of combos, got controlled out, was targeted first for just a laugh or two, and just had a discouraging time. I was never shown any mercy or pity for having a weaker deck. Nobody ever pulled out something that equated to my level of play. And it wasnt until i played with a certain group that I learned that no matter how much I hated playing against combo, control, stax, hatebears, etc, people would still play it regardless of how I felt. They played what THEY loved. I learned that if I wanted to actually be regarded as a real threat, I had to evolve, play a stronger deck, find a love of my own. This kind of cutthroat environment forced me to be a better player. I guess it really boils down to your perspective on the format and how you play with your playgroup or LGS. I will say that it is a damn shame that Josh or DJ or Jimmy don't get to be as mean as they want to be when they play magic for the sake of someone else's fun. If people want to play less powerful decks that's fine. THEY are entirely responsible for the power of their deck. But do not ask your opponents to sacrifice their fun just so you can have yours.
Brett McKnight (1 day ago)
Play whatever you want. Nothing is off the table. Play all of the cards.
fredirecko (1 day ago)
"I HAVEN'T CAST A DINOSAUR IN WEEKS!"
Brandon S (1 day ago)
I can agree with paradox engine and palinchron. The rest is an actual way to play the game. It's not just that I play Bruna with Cataclysm and Grand Arbiter and a metric fuck ton of counter spells. Edit: I only play that deck in the group if everyone gangs up on me when I'm trying to just have fun.
wadlde (1 day ago)
Eldrazi. Player says hes got that annihilator in his deck? #1 target for removal, discard ect.
Swedishfish B (2 days ago)
I just played a match in an artifacts matters deck Turn one island sol ring turn two island winter orb walking balista and shot my friend's commander I love playing mean once in a while Then i play nice for a couple games
Tyler Zonneveld (2 days ago)
Pai gow poker is not played with three cards....
KC L (2 days ago)
I don't play with more then 2 tutors in a deck. No matter the strategy. I do this because it feels really poor to play a tutor, shuffle, play a tutor, shuffle, play a tutor, shuffle. I understand you can short cut this, but within the rules of the game, what I described is how it must be done. It takes time to do this, it's no fun to do this, and that is why I choose to not do it.
nnowotny34 (2 days ago)
Jokulhaups // constant mist in Lord Windgrace deck... horrible
Adam Cox (2 days ago)
I have the exact opposite experience in my area. Casual players are looked down upon as though we're not well versed enough in the game to play competitively. My group plays with no ban list and is treated like we're "cheating" at Magic.
jerry hoffman (2 days ago)
Pack Battle
Gabriel Olivero (2 days ago)
I once had a game where there was 6 of us playing commander i don't remember the other 4 but I was playing prossh and my friend was playing mairsil and he locked us out of the game by using mairsil's ability to exile cards and gain the ability, well the lock happened by him exiling nev disk he kept on using the boardwipe ability and everyone thought he had the game so they all scooped and wanted to move onto the next game, I was persistent on finishing the game win or lose after a while I had asked him look for my next spell you either have a counterspell in hand or draw it you'll win and I'll concede if not then I win, I won the game by casting walking ballista for 22 mana and shot him with 11 damage from removing it's +1/+1 counters for the win couldn't bring mairsil back to stop me or counter from me casting the ballista and it was a very interesting and long game of rage and determination to see it through to the end.
mathieu spicer (2 days ago)
One of the guys in my group runs Grand Arbiter and it’s sooo annoying.
Derek Farnsworth (2 days ago)
Blitzkrieg Magic as a name for the Pai Gow Magic game
hbkblue37 (2 days ago)
Why even worry about a ban list in commander? It's not a real competitive format. It's for fun. Play anything you want as long as it's ok in your play group.
augmenautus rex (2 days ago)
I think Biorhythm is stronger than people think.
Jon Walquist (2 days ago)
Why is Primeval Titan banned?
Jamethy Willes (2 days ago)
The one thing I can’t stand is someone permanently taking control of my commander, or other stuff that makes it so I can’t play the game. I’m not a super competitive player, and I can totally see how people would like those effects, but I personally think you shouldn’t play one card then I can’t play... that isn’t fun. Counterspells aren’t fun, but I’ll play about them.
TheReaper419 (2 days ago)
I need to play against you guys. I need people that like the slight competitive game like i do. My play group is so very blah..... I like the challenge with the game. When someone brings out some broken combo or cards they have.... i like to be able to find a way to be able to beat them one way or another.....
davenhla (2 days ago)
There is really only a few things my play group frowns on. One is infinite combos. It's boring for the rest of the group if someone is going to talk through the next 14 turns in a row until they manage to draw/whatever through their deck to wipe the rest of the players out. Another is excessive tutoring. It's fine to have a couple in a deck, or maybe something that has like a recurring tutor(with drawbacks) that takes multiple turns to trigger, etc. But when someone loads up a deck with every tutor ever printed and spends every turn searching and shuffling, sometimes several times, it is annoying. Plus, we feel it flies in the face of the point of a 100 card deck that does not allow more then one of each card in it. Variety is the spice of life. Tutoring the same combo out in every game...... well lets just say we have a joke about leaving that crap for modern(or worse, legacy) The last thing which is more a minor nitpick is infect, and poison counters in general. but we just make it so it takes double the counters, because after all everyone has double the life points starting out. We also just rib each other about the worst offenders, like Blightsteel- most of the cards with the mechanic(or it's little brother wither) are perfectly fine. So it's less of a "that deck is too annoying you can't play it" and more of a group agreed rule tweak to allow people to not get one shot and allow the game to progress more predictably. And really, it's a lot less outright bans in our group. It's more along the lines of moderation, or allowing certain things if it is done creatively, that type of thing. We love goofy decks, low power janky decks that have weird obscure cards in it or some far fetched theme, weird tribal stuff, etc. So a lot of the netdeck stuff gets no traction, super powered ultra combo(mostly blue) decks are allowed, usually once a play session, but allowed none the less with the stipulation you better have brought something else too to match against the rest of our goofball new deck ideas. I think that is why EDH is my favorite format, even for 1 vs 1. It's just variety, with playgroup kitchen table league rules applied to make sure everyone is having fun.
agafaba (2 days ago)
Biorhythm is a very reasonable ban, combos with a few things but its an easy win if you 1. Wait for anyone else to board wipe while you can get 9 mana 2. Cast a 1 mana creature creature 3. Biorhythm Bonus points if you have a way to deal extra damage with your creature like gear smasher
The Tao of Gaming (2 days ago)
my friend used the Eldrazi that tutors for another one and puts it on the top of his deck to get Emrakul one time. i sat there and smiled with a Stolen goods in hand. twas glorious
agafaba (2 days ago)
My group hates infinite combos because it feels like "oh I was lucky enough to draw these 2 cards so everything up to this point didnt matter", for example casting a debt to the deathless with X being 200 or how I accidentally infinite comboed my superfirends deck and had 10,000 assassins with player deathtouch Land destruction is kind of similar, and if it turns out you dont auto win because you drew Armageddon then the game takes much much longer.
Brok D (2 days ago)
I stopped playing Humility.
Ignacio Gallarati (2 days ago)
Deadeye Navigator
weirdproq1 (2 days ago)
I played Master of Cruelties in my old Kaalia deck. I knew how powerful it was in my deck, but wanted to try it for fun. I won the game I played with it, and realized I'm never playing it again.
Kevin J (2 days ago)
I like the commentary on a lot of the cards, but I would like to point out; you consistently said "damage" in regards to Sorin and Wound Reflection. It isn't damage, both Sorin and Wound Reflection is loss of life. Its not redirectable nor preventable. It i nitpicky of me for this video, but its a common conversation I have with my group where they say "loss of life *IS* damage!" and I have to groan and pull out the rule book to beat them with it, then explain that damage is loss of life, loss of life is not damage.
Simple Cyndaquil (2 days ago)
Talk about planeswalkers and how they impacted not only modern/standard but EDH with waker decks just running rampant and controlling the entire game
PraetorGix (2 days ago)
So, he will be banning about 200 cards next week. These assholes in the rules committee have been ruining EDH for the past 5 years so I see no reason they won't do it again.
ZoidsNut (2 days ago)
Cards that make a single player take an inordinate amount of time before the next player gets a turn make me sulk. The Niv Mizzet, Parun deck I just built may be in need of a rework for that very reason. I felt dirty taking so long on my turn for the time I cast Curiosity on Niv and for the time I won off Thousand Year Storm. It might not get chopped if I can get my decision making process streamlined, but it's on notice.
Anthony (2 days ago)
Hey look, 2 guys who have strong opinions on an article they barely read.

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